There was a comment to one of the earlier posts that got me to thinking. The comment asked if Jesus existed before His birth and if there was a Holy Spirit before Pentecost. I, kind of flippantly perhaps, responded with a couple of Bible verses to prove that Jesus and the Holy Spirit did exist prior to those named events.
The Triune God is one of the hardest concepts for Christians to grasp and to explain and for others who are not of the faith to understand. I don't know if Jews believe in the Holy Spirit or if they believe that the Holy Spirit is part of God. I do know that Jews do not believe Jesus is part of God (except for Messianic Jews). After all, that was one of the blasphemes that prompted the Jews of the day to have Jesus crucified.
This is what I think on the subject, at least the parts I can articulate. God was, is and always will be. (See Exodus 3:14 where God tells Moses His name and Revelation 1:8.) This means that He existed before anything else. He was not created by another being. He was not born. He just always was, before time even existed.
Jesus was, is and always will be. (See Genesis 1:26 where man is made in "our image") He was, is and always be part of the One God.
The Holy Spirit was, is and always will be. It was, is and always be part of the One God. The Holy Spirit, like Jesus, can act alone. (See Isaiah 63:10 where Isaiah tells that the Holy Spirit is grieved.) We know the Holy Spirit is part of the One god because of Jesus words in Matthew and Paul's words in 2 Corinthians 13:14. Jesus says in Matthew 28:19 to "go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,". 2 Corinthians 13:14 says "May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all."
Each part of the trinity can work "alone" but is part of one God. We see where Jesus was spoken to by God the Father (Luke 3:22), where the Holy Spirit ministered to Jesus (Luke 4), where the Holy Spirit is equal (Mark 3:28-29). There are many examples in both the Old and New Testaments where the arrival on earth of Jesus is prophesied, where the Holy Spirit is a participant, and where God the Father speaks or acts or promises.
Think of your personal experience. You are a child of parents. You are a worker. You are perhaps a parent. You have a mind, body and soul. You can see the body. You can think with your mind. They've done studies that tend to confirm the existence of a soul.
One big difference between your experience and God's is that God can separate Himself of His parts. He can be everywhere and send His body to earth as a baby and can send His spirit to the disciples at Pentecost and to new believers as they become new believers. This unique ability also means that God can send whichever part of Him is needed to meet the need we have at any given time. We can't be everywhere at once. We can't be with our sick parents at the same time as we are at our child's ballgame and serve a meal for a funeral dinner. We aren't capable of doing that but God and His parts can.
How wonderful is our God?
Thank you God, all parts of You, even those that may be but are not revealed in Your Word for Your presence, where we are and when we need You and in the form we need You. You are so amazing. Amen.
The Triune God is one of the hardest concepts for Christians to grasp and to explain and for others who are not of the faith to understand. I don't know if Jews believe in the Holy Spirit or if they believe that the Holy Spirit is part of God. I do know that Jews do not believe Jesus is part of God (except for Messianic Jews). After all, that was one of the blasphemes that prompted the Jews of the day to have Jesus crucified.
This is what I think on the subject, at least the parts I can articulate. God was, is and always will be. (See Exodus 3:14 where God tells Moses His name and Revelation 1:8.) This means that He existed before anything else. He was not created by another being. He was not born. He just always was, before time even existed.
Jesus was, is and always will be. (See Genesis 1:26 where man is made in "our image") He was, is and always be part of the One God.
The Holy Spirit was, is and always will be. It was, is and always be part of the One God. The Holy Spirit, like Jesus, can act alone. (See Isaiah 63:10 where Isaiah tells that the Holy Spirit is grieved.) We know the Holy Spirit is part of the One god because of Jesus words in Matthew and Paul's words in 2 Corinthians 13:14. Jesus says in Matthew 28:19 to "go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,". 2 Corinthians 13:14 says "May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all."
Each part of the trinity can work "alone" but is part of one God. We see where Jesus was spoken to by God the Father (Luke 3:22), where the Holy Spirit ministered to Jesus (Luke 4), where the Holy Spirit is equal (Mark 3:28-29). There are many examples in both the Old and New Testaments where the arrival on earth of Jesus is prophesied, where the Holy Spirit is a participant, and where God the Father speaks or acts or promises.
Think of your personal experience. You are a child of parents. You are a worker. You are perhaps a parent. You have a mind, body and soul. You can see the body. You can think with your mind. They've done studies that tend to confirm the existence of a soul.
One big difference between your experience and God's is that God can separate Himself of His parts. He can be everywhere and send His body to earth as a baby and can send His spirit to the disciples at Pentecost and to new believers as they become new believers. This unique ability also means that God can send whichever part of Him is needed to meet the need we have at any given time. We can't be everywhere at once. We can't be with our sick parents at the same time as we are at our child's ballgame and serve a meal for a funeral dinner. We aren't capable of doing that but God and His parts can.
How wonderful is our God?
Thank you God, all parts of You, even those that may be but are not revealed in Your Word for Your presence, where we are and when we need You and in the form we need You. You are so amazing. Amen.
Greetings Sherri Harding
ReplyDeleteOn the subject of the Trinity,
I recommend this video:
The Human Jesus
Take a couple of hours to watch it; and prayerfully it will aid you to reconsider "The Trinity"
Yours In Messiah
Adam Pastor